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NO2ID is a campaigning organisation. We are a single-issue group focussed on the threat to liberty and privacy posed by the rapid growth of the database state, of which "ID cards" were the most visible part. We are entirely independent.

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Responses to those who say ID records are a Good thing 9 Replies

There are a variety of comments on the wall that provide "responses" to those when canvassing who insist that ID is a good thing.What have other Lib Dems suggested and what are other responses?Continue

Started by Kelly-Marie Blundell. Last reply by Stan Evans Dec 5, 2010.

Support ID Cards and a compulsory National DNA database 8 Replies

Chris said:-"If you have nothing to hide there's nothing to be afraid of".that used to me my way of thinking !Well that is still my way of thinking - I am in fvaour of both a National Identity Cards…Continue

Tags: database, DNA, Cards, ID

Started by David Turner. Last reply by Stan Evans Dec 5, 2010.

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Comment by Chris Stevens on January 9, 2010 at 2:15
Comment by Chris Stevens on December 24, 2009 at 3:02
Still think ID cards a good idea?

Domestic extremeism
Comment by Chris Stevens on December 13, 2009 at 19:27
I find people usually get iffy about it when they hear how much it will cost to implement And how easily the info can get "lost" by people working in the various departments
Just saw this. Someone getting hassled by police for recording
Comment by Rebekah Gronowski on December 11, 2009 at 16:57
I am against this particular form of ID which the Government seems intent on imposing upon us. If it was to be SIMPLY an ID (a form of Identity and Nationality) then I might not have a problem with it. I was a 'WW2 baby' - we all had a National Identity Card - the number on the front of it (and I can still picture it now) became our National Health Number. The problem I have with the Govt's proposal is that it will be a form of SMART Card which will have far too much information on it, much of which (in my view) I don't believe the Government is entitled to hold on us. The Big Brother mentality has taken hold of this Government - when the book "1984" was written, it was pure fanstasy and no-one really believed that it could ever happen. Put that book ("1984") together with "Brave new World" and we have EXACTLY that kind of civilisation now. So I am definitely saying - NO2ID! Over my dead body - if it means I can no longer travel abroad, then so be it! I will not have my eyes scanned and simply become a Barcode just to get a new Passport and to satisfy this megalomaniacal Government! It would be a breach of Human Rights to impose this upon UK Citizens - we must resist this with all vigour!
Comment by James Baker on December 2, 2009 at 23:36
Liverpool city council is due to debate a motion, which could see the government being refused permission to use any of the councils' property or communications channels to promote this scheme. We are really hoping this Lib Dem controlled council will pass this motion, as it would send a fantastic message out about the region opposing the scheme. The more people we can prevent getting conned into signing up the better, in the hope that the scheme will soon be scrapped.
Comment by Chris Stevens on December 1, 2009 at 12:24
But is this Labour party really got the morals and policies
of the party when they were in power with Attlee in 45 - 50
and brought in the NHS or Wilsons 60's and 70's Govs

Is it really anything to do with the labour Party
IN my view it's morphed into a new party which those
in the Tories have conspired with over the last decade

The proper opposition party which the Tory's should be,
arent that different from the Gov

This is why The Lib Dems to me seem the proper
opposition party and why im interested in the Lib Dems

So for 2010 they need to be ideally in power for 1 term
at least or big enough to be the 2nd largest party for the
next few decades far in front of this new monster of a party
which is currently in Gov
Comment by Mark Foster on November 30, 2009 at 16:43
Chris Stevens,

I hate to say it but Churchill predicted that a Labour government would eventually need a 'secret police' to enforce their idiological dogma. I think Labour given a five year mandate would start it, of course with a euphamistic name like 'National Equality and Human Rights Agency'. We have to remember that the longest a Labour government has lasted until now was Wilson's 64-70 government (six years).
Comment by Chris Stevens on November 30, 2009 at 2:22
I can see a DNA database has great potential, for catching or bringing people who have comiited serious crimes to justice even decades later after they think they've gotten away with it, to giving justice to people in a way not possible before this was available

I know ID card systems are in use in some european countries already and probably well established in some of those.

But who can believe in a Government not to use that improperly nowadays.

Or for the UK police forces to use both of those systems correctly when there was a obvious cover up attempt at the highest levels when they murdered that brazilian guy in stockwell. and when things like the IPC are blatantly and glaringly not independent

I never thought there would come the day when Id get worried about what I post on political subjects and that I'd so distrust so many institutions

Actually I guess we should be using the discussion forums but I instinctively
post on these comment pages without even thinking. Somehow feels righter
Comment by David Turner on November 29, 2009 at 17:32
Chris and Derek - I too am alarmed by the attack on Civil Liberies that the Labour Party have implemented. Of course the terrorist bombings of the Underground have given them the excuse and created the political climate to help them get away with it. It is the use of such legislation in cases where no terrorism is involved that is most alarming - What are the judges doing? Have they been nobbled too. For example the government used anit-terrorism legislation to freeze the accounts of Icelandic banks when they went bankrupt. How could a judge agree to that?
Comment by Chris Stevens on November 29, 2009 at 16:56
Derek. I got confused too. Im calling you
Chris too. Maybe we should swap first names
might be easier

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