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Not only is the impact a poster has in the eye of the beholder, but so is the strap line.  Commitees are very poor in designing something outstanding, .  Any message one is trying to impart  must be immediate and recognised.

For example the failure of the UK Olympic logo to resonate with many people is not only because it looks very like the 60's design it comes from and seen as old fashioned but, is not immediately recognised as having meaning.

With political messages in particular where the reader can't touch or taste the product, the messsage must be unique and have gravitas.

For example;

The BBC turn to Vince Cable for his policy and plans for the  UK Economy.

                                            Who will you turn to ?

                                                                                            Vote  Lib etc Logo


Not.     Pic of a plate  

                                  Vote Lib Dem for free school meals

                                                                                              Vote  Lib etcLogo

                                                                                         

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I'm new to this and confused! How do I go about submitting an idea for a poster? is there a link to click on, or I'm I supposed to make it up for myself and paste it into a message like this?

In case the latter is true, I'd like to lay claim to the most obvious slogan, which the Party should run with, i.e:-
"Change for the better, not just for the sake of it". That should put paid to David Cameron constantly claiming that only the Tory Party offer the people of this country an opportunity for "Change".

We've had nothing but Changes of Tory and Labour Governments for almost a century, but none of them have changed much since the second World War in particular. In Dec 1948, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights promised a change for the better, for all human beings in the post war period. Yet on the 18 Jan 1949 when Frank Byers asked the then Prime Minister "what changes they propose to initiate in British domestic and colonial legislation in order to bring such legislation into line with the principles laid down in the Universal Declaration." his reply was that there was "no obligation to give early legislative effect to any provision with which Kingdom or Colonial laws may at the moment be at variance. Nevertheless, His Majesty's Government subscribe generally to the ideal embodied in the Declaration and will continue to work towards it".

That line of argument was wrong, as the same Government was securing those rights for Germans when ensuring (as part of the 3 powers) that German Basic Law respected the Universal Declaration. Every UK Government since then has followed that tack and denied all human rights for all of us. The Human Rights Act & the European Convention do not comply with it either, nor the 2 International Covenants, which the present Governments still seeks to avoid complying with. They still say that human rights are an 'aspiration' but we've had 61 years of that argument.

That is the change in policy the UK needs, so that the people can be sure that at least one Political Party will at last ensure that the pledge in the Declaration is upheld. The sole aspiritaion in the pledge and Declaration was:-
"to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance".

No Government has attempted to "work towards it" as Parliament still holds the view that it can pass UK laws, even when they violate any human rights because that it their right. I wholly disagree with that supposition and believe that the majority of voters don't even know it exists. The Liberals could change that by also including a slogan of "Parliament for the people not for the State".
Hi John

Thanks for that, not sure I go along with your thoughts though. Sound as if they are a debating society subject and not hard nosed enough.

On the poster design.. I am not in charge but, reading the Poster design page it does ask for a PDF, so I guess if you can make one ,,,As for changing a few words so it "sounds like a VW" I wouldn't.,

I didn't send a pic for no other reason that when assembling ideas in a brain storm session, I wouldn't wish to invest too much time on iceing the cake when no one is going to eat it.

Mind you knowing the world, unless you follow the rules and tick the right boxes any ideas, even good ones, will be binned.


Chris

John Wilson said:
I'm new to this and confused! How do I go about submitting an idea for a poster? is there a link to click on, or I'm I supposed to make it up for myself and paste it into a message like this?
In case the latter is true, I'd like to lay claim to the most obvious slogan, which the Party should run with, i.e:- "Change for the better, not just for the sake of it". That should put paid to David Cameron constantly claiming that only the Tory Party offer the people of this country an opportunity for "Change".

We've had nothing but Changes of Tory and Labour Governments for almost a century, but none of them have changed much since the second World War in particular. In Dec 1948, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights promised a change for the better, for all human beings in the post war period. Yet on the 18 Jan 1949 when Frank Byers asked the then Prime Minister "what changes they propose to initiate in British domestic and colonial legislation in order to bring such legislation into line with the principles laid down in the Universal Declaration." his reply was that there was "no obligation to give early legislative effect to any provision with which Kingdom or Colonial laws may at the moment be at variance. Nevertheless, His Majesty's Government subscribe generally to the ideal embodied in the Declaration and will continue to work towards it".

That line of argument was wrong, as the same Government was securing those rights for Germans when ensuring (as part of the 3 powers) that German Basic Law respected the Universal Declaration. Every UK Government since then has followed that tack and denied all human rights for all of us. The Human Rights Act & the European Convention do not comply with it either, nor the 2 International Covenants, which the present Governments still seeks to avoid complying with. They still say that human rights are an 'aspiration' but we've had 61 years of that argument.

That is the change in policy the UK needs, so that the people can be sure that at least one Political Party will at last ensure that the pledge in the Declaration is upheld. The sole aspiritaion in the pledge and Declaration was:-
"to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance".

No Government has attempted to "work towards it" as Parliament still holds the view that it can pass UK laws, even when they violate any human rights because that it their right. I wholly disagree with that supposition and believe that the majority of voters don't even know it exists. The Liberals could change that by also including a slogan of "Parliament for the people not for the State".
I can help with that. I have many wonderful pictures to contribute, here is one example if you like it.

I have more pics from United Nations site if you want..sorry for the Michael Jackson Picture.. I was going to upload one from UN..

This is the first of many mistakes..

but if you like Michael then is fine..

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